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>> you -- >> israel -- >> they all hated it. are you concerned the saudis given this tension with iran, saudi arabia may decide we'll by a nuclear bomb. the proliferation issue is really serious. >> i said that that deal and i said it to cnn, i said to anybody that would listen is going to lead to great nuclear proliferation and that's what is happening. that's what is going to happen and you can't blame them. >> the ambassador, he told me last year he wasn't ruling out the possibility that saudi arabia could go ahead and develop or maybe even buy a nuclear bomb. they have a lot of money. >> t...

Think it's important that the united states and its arab allies have a strong presence in the gulf and make it clear we're going to -- this is the purpose of the united states navy it's to protect the legitimate commercial shipping routes of interstate commerce. if there's ever a time for the navy and there are major times for the navy this is especially it. something to keep in mind too, when we talk about sequestering our military the navy being cut. this is very important and it's very important that the united states show that we are going to stand with our arab partners and stand for free...

To believe it's the assad regime. what you don't know is motive. there's been speculation, was it a command and control decision from assad himself? was it an individual unit acting? i mean, that's interesting, but i don't think it's depositive. if you don't act on this proliferation issue, it signals weakness around the world to an accepted principle that these type of weapons should never be used. >> general hayden, do you agree that the delivery systems for this makes it incredibly unlikely, if not impossible, for the opposition to have been the ones to use these weapons? >> very strongly, ...

Policymakers, we're on the outside of that number, two years and some, even longnger tn that. when it gets to the israeli, they're on the inside of the number, they're a year and less, and they're running out of time. and it has to do with where you sit. if you're sitting in israel looking at a potential nuclear holocaust and you're betting the entire sovereignty and survival of the state, you have a tendency to err on the side of caution. and also the intel analysts have been wrong in the past, and the israelis are very much aware of it. >> just one quick question, and then we'll wrap it up. ...

>> good to be with you kelly. >> kelly: this is something that really cuts to the relationship. if you remember president obama was saying we have a better than ever relationship with russia. what happens now? >> well, you know russia has always played both sides of this game. they've always done things to support the coalition the u.s. and other countries that trying to pressure iran. and they've also had their own independent dealings with iran. i don't think this is too big of a deal. russia signed this contract in 1995. so, this has been dragging on and on and on for 15 years. at the end o...