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Isn't it, from the districk attorney after months of investigations —— district attorney after months of investigations. it attorney after months of investigations.— investigations. it is surprising - investigations. it is surprising to - investigations. it is - surprising to everybody that they're going after alec baldwin personally. everybody anticipated that the firearms expert and the prop master were going to be charged. but it's quite a shock. and what's more interesting is that how they're pleading it. there's two charges that they're asking for and the alternative. one is just 18...

You brought up hannah gutierrez reed, the armorer. she was, essentially, a rookie. she had studied under her father, who was an armorer in the industry. she had just come off her first project as lead armorer. and as she said, she was not only armorer on -- but she had a second job, assisting on props. and so, some of the questions around her was, did the production hire the most experienced person? or was there some, essentially, cost cutting around that? >> it's important, jim, to think about, where all this leads. and as we learn more, the charges have not yet been filed -- understand -- bu...

Anti-abortion activists are rallying there, and this is the march for life demonstration. this is the first time that they have been at a march like this since "roe versus wade" was overturned. >> and plus the actors union and the screen actors gild are coming to the defense of alec baldwin arguing that the channels against him indicate a lack of understanding of how a film set operates. we will ask a prop master if he agrees. we will work with you every step of the way to help you u achieve it. so let us focus on the how. just tell us - what's your why? there's always a fresh deal on the subw...

Actor's hands, with a loaded gun that he never expected to be loaded. but you can work your way all the way back up the food chain, from the person that handed it to him, the first ad, who should never be handling a gun, ever -- that is not his job. i ad is like a conductor. they don't play any of the instruments, they just tell them all went to come in on cue. and then you take that back to the armorer, the promise, or the ammo supplier, the producers for the hiring practices -- they are so many hands in this. it's a great example for us to learn by and realize how we need to change some of t...

Charged. let's discuss now with -- merrick the founder of -- gun safety -- and rob ackerman, the former prop master for saturday night live. good to have you on, in an area where everyone is wondering, what is supposed to happen on the sets? what actually does happen? and this idea of what the standard is in the industry, let alone a duty of care. i'm going to begin with you here on this, rob. because you are actually a prop master at saturday night live live for 20 years. you actually worked at one point on the show with alec baldwin. and you said, when the shooting actually happened, you not...