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It has metasticized. >> a lot of the reasons why people in the bush administration and obama administration don't talk that way about religion, not only because it's not true you about because it gives them propaganda material, what do you think when you hear that? >> there are a group of scholars who believe isis and those like isis are using the political context for islam to do what they do, including beheadings and other things, which is entirely wrong. the other part of that is we need our arab partners, our sunni arab partners, shia arab partners to help get a handle on this extreme isla...

I've gone through cancer in my own life. so it's like cancer. it's like a malignant cancer though in this case. it has metastasized. >> a lot of reasons and you know this from your days with fbi and also on the house intelligence committee a lot of reasons why people in the bush administration and the obama administration say don't talk that way about religion, not only because it's not true it's because it emboldens the enemy and gives them propaganda material. what do you think when you hear that? >> two parts of that. i wasn't sure of the first part because there are a grouch scholars that ...

Attacks against the united states of america and our allies. >> and out of belgium tonight, federal prosecutors announcing they've arrested two people, suspected of plotting attacks on several prominent sites in brussels during the new year's celebrations. excuse me. officials say a series of raids in brussels that begun on sunday turned up isis propaganda material, but no weaponry. that investigation is not tied to the terror attacks in paris. joining me now, nbc news military analyst, retired u.s. general, barry mccaffrey. always good to have you with us. >> good to be with you, erica. >> wh...

Year's terror plot. a series of raids that started sunday in brussels turned up isis propaganda material but no weaponry according to officials. the investigation is not tied to the terror attacks in paris. nbc's cortney cuby is at the pentagon and chapman bell is in london to break all of this down. cortney, you were in the briefing. bring us up to speed. you listened to the briefing, i should say, on what the very latest is. >> reporter: well, there was the individual who was killed that you played the tape of colonel steve warren announcing. there was actually another individual who was kil...

And the yaz does. >> yeah. and isis has been very clear about this in the past. if you take a look at their statements and if you take a look at their propaganda material that has come out. and they've also demonstrated over the course of these past, a certain type of resilience on the battlefield. they've lost senior members of the organization to u.s. drone strikes, lost key members of their ability to finance, they've lost territory in some areas of iraq after they were push in in and out of the heartland of iraq. so despite some of these battlefield losses, they've shown an ability to rege...