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Seen this coming, though, you pointed out that this actually started before the olympics began. >> exactly. we kind of start today see developing out, nbc lester holt a few weeks ago seemed that he was buying into some of the propaganda during time in north korea and then once the media -- the olympics take off the same narrative seem today carry on and so it makes you wonder what's going on and why such media outlets so willing to play into the hands of such a brutal regime. heather: same media outlets lecturing about journalistic integrity. >> exactly. the same folks that are lecturing us ab...

Used before. this is not an earth shattering development. there is more evidence it's a propaganda ploy. eric: how do you think it will play out after the olympics? >> our president made it clear in his speech to the u.n. that denuclearization is the path forward. i don't think it chinese have done what they have the capability of doing. the president is approaching a choice of letting north korea getting deliverable nuclear weapons or looking at military force. he has been in office for one year brand-new the problem has been brewing for 25 years and he will have to come up with the answer. e...

Shoulder fired missiles are not capable of reaching it. and when the pilot reports a problem, he reports it as a technical problem. >> yes. >> and he does not mention anything about an explosion or anything like that, and the claims by isis and whomever else is a propaganda ploy. >> and again, nbc news is not confirming that as of yet any such claim. who has jurisdiction in a situation like this, we have egypt and russia and reports they are talking to the each other and promised to collaborate, and reports of the russians officials, and speaking of the metro jet e employee, and speaking with ...

There is a hospital there. it's really hard to see how this could have apartmented. >> thit leaves the united state in a very difficult legal position. beyond that, moral position. how do you continue to justify this position. when from time to time the united states gets it wrong? >> well, you know, we've been seeing this for years now in afghanistan. and it is a great propaganda ploy from the taliban in an area where the taliban was not expected to show this type of strength. the fact they could take the city to begin with was shocking. now you have a situation in which the united states in ...

Perverse and dangerous. >> social conservatives who sought to ban gays and lesbians from working in schools found themselves doing battle with grassroots activist like harvey milk. >> there are 15 million lesbians and gay men! >> while some stigma slowly waned, in 1973 the american psychiatric association announced being gay was not a mental disorder. another battle was just beginning. in 1981 a mysterious disease began killing otherwise healthy gay men. >> this lethal epidemic sweeping out of control through the homosexual enclaves of america has been turned into a propaganda ploy in our opin...