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Pictures of that christmas day underwear bomb plot suspect, this time in training. those images were obtained by abc news from al qaeda. they're said to show umar farouk abdulmutallab learning to fire weapons at a terrorism training camp. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> what do these images show us and how relevant are they? >> they're not exactly news breaking. we knew he was in an al qaeda training camp in yemen. he knew he was there. what's interesting about this is that this video was actually produced directly by al qaeda in the -- it carries their logo. this looks like...

>> does this have any propaganda value, releasing this video for the taliban? >> it has some value. it shows they have an american hostage and have leverage against the united states, but you wonder. this is the third video they've released. there's nothing about this video that demonstrates them having a particular power or influence over mr. bergdahl. certainly, he's not joining their movement. this looks more than anything else to put leverage or pressure on the u.s. government to negotiate for mr. bergdahl fate as quickly as possible. it is what it is. it's proof of life. it's a way for th...

Pressure off of the rest of the world on north korea so they can get to that point. between a year and two years. and once they have that missile, with the war head fastened to the top of it, we're into an entirety new ball game. david: mary, what about this is more than just about dialogue with north korea. it's making sure that the south koreans don't give away too much? >> dan puts the zinger on it when he talks about -- and john boll on the did too. they're not going to backtrack at this point. they want the missile and the bomb. and you know, for them, i think this is buying time. and kim...

Pressure off of the rest of the world on north korea so they can get to that point. between a year and two years. and once they have that missile, with the war head fastened to the top of it, we're into an entirety new ball game. david: mary, what about this is more than just about dialogue with north korea. it's making sure that the south koreans don't give away too much? >> dan puts the zinger on it when he talks about -- and john boll on the did too. they're not going to backtrack at this point. they want the missile and the bomb. and you know, for them, i think this is buying time. and kim...

With isis. how can i guarantee you his claims -- they never had a phone number that he talked to an isis member. reconstructing that timeline over time to tell you in a month or two months, i guarantee that note was just a claim of affiliation with isis, but there was never any communication. that is really tough. >> how likely is it atlas martyrdom video like we saw with the charlie hebdo attacks? >> i was just going to say that. if he did make contact with isis, they will have instructed him not to just leave a note. they want a martyrdom video and reading out a confession as to why he's goi...