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This, know this to be true, he's talking about legislation and talking about proposal legislation that he knows is not going to be signed by the president. why engage in that? why -- if you've got a crowd of 10,000 as you said there, why say that in front of those folks when you know it's not going to happen? >> because the purpose of yesterday's rally was to support life and support measures that support life. sometimes you got to fight the good fight, whether or not you're going to win or not. the key was to focus on the life issue and also there's other ways to go around it. you can look at...

Good health care or if you don't have access to a doctor to ask your questions, you're not in the same position as somebody who does. >> right. we know that most women who seek abortions do so because they can't afford another child. what our study shows is that in fact they were correct. when you have a child that you're not prepared to have, the poverty, your chances of being in poverty are significantly higher. and none of the proposed legislation does anything to make health care, raising a family, choosing abortion, seeking an abortion earlier, seeking a safer abortion. none of these are ...

And israel goes ahead and prepares to strike the nuclear facilities? what type of assurances did you tell them, and shouldn't we, i recognize the difference between debate and bluster, but shouldn't we be having in this country a vigorous debate about what could happen in the case of a middle east war in way that sadly we did not do before going into iraq? >> i think there is no doubt that those who are suggesting, or proposing, or beating the drums of war should explain clearly to the american people what they think the costs and benefits would be. i'm not one of those people, because what i'...

Place. and that we have got a path so that all those folks whose kids often are u.s. citizens who are working with us, living with us, in our communities, and not breaking the law, and trying to do their best to raise their families, that they have a chance to be a fuller part of our community. so what do i think will change? what i will do -- look, were going to be putting forward as we have done before, a framework, a proposal legislation that can move it -- move the ball forward and get this thing done. but ultimately, i can't vote for republicans. they are going to have to come to the conc...

Unfortunate way, in his words for mitt romney to start. >>shepard: thank you, wendell, from the white house. the defense secretary panetta is calling for congress to avoid automatic budget cuts that he says would tear a seam in the nation's defense. the so-called congressional super committee failed to reach a deal on cutting $1.2 trillion from the deficit. if they tried, even. so, unless something changes before 2013 the automatic trigger is set to slash up to $600 billion from defense budget over a decade. and mike has the new live on capitol hill and every person involved in this knew this ...