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Facts surrounding the obstruction case which were not meeting the bar for a criminal charge. here is the attorney general. >> special counsel mueller stated three times to us in that meeting in response to our questioning that he emphatically was not saying that, but for the olc opinion he would have found obstruction. he said that in the future, the facts of the case against the president might be such that a special counsel would recommend abandoning the olc opinion, but this is not such a case. >> reporter: so this gab between special counsel robert mueller and the attorney general based on...

Ramification, let's bring in bret baeir. i know one of the most important things when you're a journalist covering a story like this, if there's daylight or a discrepancy between two principles and in this case, as catherine pointed out, and i saw your first reaction was, barr said this, now mueller is saying this. are you hearing anything else about this in washington? >> the department of justice is saying that it was clear that mueller and his team told them and told attorney general barr in this meeting on march 5th that the olc, office of legal counsel, was not but for that, he would have...