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It is the first time we've heard from garland since news of this indictment of course came out last week, what else did he say about jack smith? >> well it is surprising caitlin, because this is not an attorney general who talks much at all about the special counsel, so to even hear him come out and defend smith was significant. he's also defending the justice department as a whole from the rhetoric from former president trump, and his allies. now he went on to emphasize that the special counsel's operating independently, and the justice department is all about accountability. he was also aske...

Even before the indictment and arraignment the former president framed the federal investigation of him as a vendetta carried out by what he calls the department of injustice, quoting him there, on orders he claims are from president biden. the president and the white house by contrast have largely stayed mum on this. not entirely though. obviously there is a strategy here. it is noteworthy just how little we have heard out of the west wing on a story that is soaking up so much oxygen in washington. >> reporter: another day another no comment from the white house on this matter. i tried asking...