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With estimated billion of medicare fraud, he could get a big bounty, he just has to find the dollars. >> medical fraud, what is that. >> that means the government is paying money for goods and services not being delivered. somebody is submitting a false bill and the government is paying it. >> i've heard crazy examples of doctors literally, not doctors but criminals literally billing on behalf of doctors no longer alive. >> dead doctors billing is a problem, in new york state. >> you say that very cavalier, this is something known, we know that doctor died a few years ago and we will bill on h...

>> there's other frauds similar as bad. females with prostate operations or pregnancies and the government pays those repeatedly or dead patients receiving care. >> how can that happen in 2010. something is going to say, john doe, his pregnancy. we'll take care of that. >> it happens. it happens. there's psychiatrists that will bill 42 hours day, 380 hours a week until you catch them. >> we're not talking about inefficiencies here, we're not talking about mistakes, we're talking about people intentionally trying to make money off the government using medicare? >> yes. they're upcoding. a simpl...

It's not resulting in any health care for the american population. >> i've heard crazy examples of doctors literally, not doctors but criminals literally billing on behalf of doctors no longer even alive. >> dead doctors billing is a problem. that's been found certainly in new york state. >> you say that very cavalier, this is something known, we know that doctor died a few years ago and we will bill on his behalf. and make money. >> there's other frauds similarly bad, i think. females coming in with prostate operations or male pregnancies, a no-brainer, yet the government pays those repeatedl...