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Northern district of northern california. she joins me now. i'm always curious about how the crime and the cover-up relate to each other in terms of obstruction investigations. so there's some underlying misconduct that might be criminal. and there's conduct after the fact obscure it. how did prosecutors treat those in this kind of investigation? >> hi, chris. thank you so much for having me on tonight. as you mentioned in your lead in, the reporting is that representative is gaetz being looked into for obstruction of justice. oftentimes we think of crimes like substantive crimes. child sex tr...

Investigations, right? so, this is some underlying misconduct that might be criminal. and then, there is some conduct after the fact to obscure it. how do prosecutors treat those in this kind of investigation? >> hi, chris. thanks so much for having me on tonight. as you mentioned in your lead-in, the reporting is that representative gaetz is being looked into for obstruction of justice. now, oftentimes, we think of crimes, like substantive crimes. child-sex trafficking, for example. prostitution cases. those are the sort of substantive crimes that we typically think of when we think of crimin...

We have to wait and see who the individual is that is appointed, but i think the quicker they get schneiderman out of there, they get someone else in that has credibility, has the confidence of the people of new york, and of the officials who -- in the state legislature, the governor, the better off we'll all be. >> john heilman, the parallels to elliott spitzer tonight are striking, a former attorney general to new york state who then became governor and whose career was destroyed in a scandal involving prostitutes. a story that began while he was new york state attorney general and involved ...

Schneiderman out of there, they get someone else in that has credibility, has the confidence of the people of new york, and of the officials who -- in the state legislature, the governor, the better off we'll all be. >> john heilman, the parallels to elliott spitzer tonight are striking, a former attorney general to new york state who then became governor and whose career was destroyed in a scandal involving prostitutes. a story that began while he was new york state attorney general and involved in the prosecution of prostitution cases. it is just mind boggling how they could find themselves ...

All prostitution cases in the county. >> they believe if they don't take this lifeline they will not survive. they are probably right. >> reporter: the illinois supreme court granded msnbc a rare opportunity to bear witness to this problem-solving court that is the first of its kind in the country. >> normally i asked to be sentenced but this time i chose treatment. >> reporter: instead of doing time, women like tammy can opt to join a two-year rehabilitation treatment program. >> what do you think brought you back to the streets? the drugs or boyfriend? >> the women receive drugs and alcohol ...