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Impact on iowa caucusgoers? >> we honestly don't know the answer to that yet. you know, so far he's number two in the polls in iowa. you talked earlier about "the washington post" poll. part of it was taken after the trump remarks. i think the thing you have to pay attention to here is the potency of the protest candidate, okay? the potency of the anti-establishment, anti-washington, anti-politician protest candidate, and that is donald trump. a lot of people are paying attention to that because they want an insurgent to emerge from this huge and growing ranks of republican candidates. donald ...

Calling for trump to drop out. also trump was on bill o'reilly tonight, and bill asked him what would he say directly to mccain. how did he respond? >> you know trump didn't apologize. he was given an opportunity to go as o'reilly put it man-to-man, talk to senator mccain what would you say. and he sort of said something about whether if there was a misunderstanding maybe and went on and on. but then went back to his point about how john mccain had insulted all of his supports so if anybody was expecting a direct apology from donald trump to john mccain? they didn't get it. and i think in resp...

Misunderstanding maybe. went on and on. then went back to the point how john mccain had insulted all of his supporters. so if anybody was expecting a direct apology from donald trump to john mccain. they didn't get it. and i think in response to "the des moines register" tonight. you know what what trump is number two in iowa. so far. and i think what trump will probably say is that's the media talking to itself right? it's an editorial that doesn't matter. and he'll, you know he'll push ahead. as the protest candidate that he is. in a way that could actually fuel him. >> ryan it is interestin...

Clinton. bernie sanders will be very popular with the base. he is probably a protest candidate. >> do you think he's popping in here because he believes he can win in some other way in this cottage industry of future by laws? >> i don't think it's if i lose i'll win because i get book deals and speaking fees. i think utsz one of these maybe i'll you get unlucky and i'll be the last man standing or your you're set for the party going forward. he had a good run for mayor despite the baltimore controversies. so i think it makes sen for him to take this next step. he's having a hard time getting t...

The platform for his views. the support and fund-raising prowess that he could demonstrate to his own party. giving his views more seeming viability within the republican party. hoping to nudge the party in that direction. there was reasons for him to run as a protest candidate. but no one, including ron paul, i think, ever thought that he was ever anything but a protest candidate, that he was ever actually going to be president. running was its own end. he held on to that house seat from texas for decades. you know, casting protest votes and passing zero legislation and every four years woe r...