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Do you know if police beat williams or coerced him, as his mother says to say that he shot these police officers when he didn't? >> you know i don't know. what i do know is i've seen the police assault people at protests before and we have reason to question the police narratives because they've told untruths before. even the night of the shooting without seeing any evidence he went to the police were ambushed the shooter was embedded in the protest community, things that we know to be untrue. so we question the narrative because we've been lied to before. not true. we're talking about justice...

>> i didn't say i'm defending williams. what i'm defending is a narrative untrue. right? so i'm pushing back against a narrative that is untrue. what belmar said is that the shooter was embedded in the protest community and that the shooter ambushed the police things that simply are not true. i don't condone the shooting but i want to get to the facts and it seems like jeffrey was assaulted by the police and that is a problem and that the lawyer is saying that the statements were released without any counsel. again, this is why we are protesting because the police have shown that they are unfe...

We know that the police department are working hard to discredit the movement at any costs. immediately following the shooting and i was there before the police tape had even gone up fully, he's on tv saying the shooter was embedded in the protest community and that the police are being ambushed. things we know four days later to be untrue. i think if anything with the shooting it has reminded us the importance of questioning the police and we're protesting a police department that prejudicially judges people of color which is what we saw in this case. >> we now this guy confessed to firing th...

Fired police officers, knowles leaving. those would be accountability in some way and we haven't experienced that. remember in st. louis, seven people have been killed by the cops since august. and we have not had any updates on the other six people that the police have killed. we are looking for accountability and justice. and we've not experienced any of that yet. >> i always talk about everybody having the power of going to the ballot box and putting forward what you want, your vote is as important as mine or anybody else's. with these upcoming elections, do you think that these protests wi...

>> it's been called an outside agitator who may have come in. does that make sense to you? you've been leading these protests, the majority of which have been peaceful. you're trying to get a grip and turn things around and move forward positively. >> let's be clear, i'm not leading the protests. many people in this space are organizing and making change happen in the protest community. i hear you, this idea that this could be a turning point but the reality is we don't know much about the shooter. people are trying to discredit the movement and peddle this narrative that this is somebody who'...