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Sort of grace period that would allow them this friday deadline where everyone either had to have real clearance or not see any of that material at all came and went and there was no sort of at least public decision reached for jared. there was a sense that the white house is trying to find a way to punt this down the road. you saw president trump last week sort of punt it to general kelly saying it's not my call, it's his call. the interesting thing about the security clearance issue is that it's the key issue right now but it's really a proxy issue for a broader tension between jared and gen...

Sort of grace period that would allow them this friday deadline where everyone either had to have real clearance or not see any of that material at all came and went and there was no sort of at least public decision reached for jared. there was a sense that the white house is trying to find a way to punt this down the road. you saw president trump last week sort of punt it to general kelly saying it's not my call, it's his call. the interesting thing about the security clearance issue is that it's the key issue right now but it's really a proxy issue for a broader tension between jared and gen...

And that is worrisome and seeing in syria now, the makings of a real u.s. russian crisis. >> do you view this as -- i'm trying to think of the politest way to say it but is vladimir putin saying here i am and what i'm doing and i don't care what the u.s. thinks? >> well, show me a strange international move like what he's doing an i'll show you probables within russia and so i think what he's trying to do is to show what a tough guy he is and i think international relations should not be considered a sort of proxy issue to show how tough leaders are and yet that's precisely what putin is doing...

Administration, he talked a lot. it's the intensity. until groups -- we can have all the groups. until it becomes the number one issue for millions of people, as it has become for the right -- it's a proxy issue for so many. what's at stake is a deformation of freedom and liberty that the nra and other groups preyed on and manipulated. i think we need to reframe it. the issue is we did public health, common sense, all that. common sense doesn't drive passion and intensity. there has to be a mood. >> keeping children safe at university college campus or, you know, in their elementary school -- ...

What is this christian rights/tea party/whatever they're going to call themselves next time, what are they going to do when they find out that even the tea party is playing them too? >> they've been trying to make god part of the elections now and for the last couple of decades. and it's very interesting what's happening now, because i think it's going to backfire. and i think we have to tell gay people that god made you how you are, that it's perfectly normal, that, you know, you need to go forward, lead your life, be out. that's why this important issue of gay marriage is so important, becau...