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Let's go back a couple years ago. he was fresh in office. took an oath and the big promise of the wall. his party held both chambers of congress. he said give me $1.4 billion to start the wall. well, democrats and some republicans too weren't too keen on the wall. so they said here's a counter offer. about that much for border security. for cameras and motion detecters and patrol. he doesn't like it very much. but takes the deal. and in doing so kills his first attempt to get the wall funded. we jump forward. toward the fall. now wast in the news. this is in the news. the dreamer program. daca...

>> so, charlie, four former homeland security secretaries sent the president and congress -- five, i should say, sent a letter urging them to fund the dhs. one of those secretaries is john kelly. when he was the chief of staff, the president threatened to shut down the government over the wall, and now that he is out of the white house, we got a shutdown. >> well, look, i worked with all those homeland security secretaries. i was on the homeland security committee for six years. it is outrageous that we are holding these people charged with protecting us, protecting our borders -- they're usin...

Look, they said they need a lot more physical barriers. i promised that as a priority. i need money for that. he would have been able to check every box. but that's never what it was about. >> and easily because it was already money appropriated for building more structures under the obama administration. >> that's right. >> he could have claimed it as his own. >> he's got a couple million sitting there they could put to work. he would have been able to get more because he wouldn't have made it an existential game because you're asking democrats to reward you for a lie. and that's hard for any...

Your wall. $20 billion. for the thing you want most. that's the understanding of the offer here. in exchange for giving me a path to citizen ship. for many of the people who are in the country. without papers. and trump says no. i cannot take that deal. either. that deal dies. >> okay. $20 billion. for a wall though? that's a lot of money. for the wall they said. he's been offered money for border security. and then money prt wall and offered bipartisan agreement. and he rejected all of it. >> yeah. what it seems to come down. donald trump seems to be taking the position i promised to build th...

>> i can't imagine that it would sit well with anybody. you know, i saw recently that about 40% of americans struggle when hit with an unexpected bill of $400. so for anyone to suggest that these workers need to experience more pain for some gain that is really illusory, you know, this is a fantasy idea that a wall is going to be built and somehow it's going to keep out all bad things. you know, there's not a wall that can't be tunneled under or scaled or breached in some way. and it didn't work for hadrian. it didn't work for china. it's not going to work for us. so for someone to -- someone ...