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Obamacare. the reason we shut down the government is because the conservatives said it would be as disastrous as it was, and obama refused to let it go. so obama was the one who shut down the government. ta the ptea party is the one who said we're going to let it shut down as is. that's not what john boehner said yesterday. he pointed fingers at the tea party and tried to demonize us. that's what people in the beltway want to do. i think they're wrong. and john boehner, if you don't want your party to win in 2014, why would you open this wound? he played right to the democrats. thank you, john...

>> you think the tea party is here to stay? >> absolutely. >> this book was just named the best book of the year. good evening and congratulations. >> thank you, chris. happy to be with you. >> this fiscal cliff was supposed to be so severe, so potentially devastating, there would be no way for congress not to make a deal. yet here we are. how did this happen? how much do you think the tea party has to do with it? >> well, the ptea party provide much of the energy and uncompromising demands. but ultimately, the republican party leadership in the house embraced them and acted on their what have...

That's the ptea party. the 2010 election was for the democrats. and i think she has been strategic about how she's picked these races that she'll endorse, who she endorses. and i think in doing that, the romney campaign really needs someone like palin who is a conservative darling to say willard's okay. romney's okay. and i'm really supporting him versus the lukewarm response palin and gingrich and others have given to romney up to this point. >> jonathan, she really has made it pretty clear what she thinks about romney. not only hasn't she endorsed him, she kind of said things that make it cl...

With mitt romney as the nominee -- >> the same thing happened, the delegates in a convention were more conservative than bob dole was and we will see the same thing. >> he is on record for, he is saying that because in florida. he is with an electorate that is super seniors, he has to appeal to them and the ptea party are older. they are by and large, seniors themselves that do not want their medicare cut. it's just those other people that are giving government programs that they want cut. >> and that is right. that is what the concern is about mitt romney. you are right, he has gone on record...

House reporter. i'm reading from my sheet here. my first question is why do you hate sarah palin and the ptea party? >> let me check that off. >> reporter: it was an unbelievable comment coming from a news executive. here's the thing. we all know there are a lot of different ways people get news. and then you have straight journalists. you have activist journalists. you have opinion folks. and we know that they're all out there. i think we believe here at nbc that people are smart enough to figure it out. and that's why when a news executive goes out there and states a crazy accusation like th...