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And his pull numbers and it suggests that something is going on that he will be further diminished. >> are republicans worried? >> he ran in a nontheological way, trump. . if he doesn't get back or govern -- i was not for him, but he appealed to democrats in michigan and ohio and pennsylvania, but he's run a bannon play. the bannon play may be appealing to some people, but it's not appealing to the majority of people who wanted to see him elected, trump, that is. a win for democrats in these areas would be a wake-up call to say you have to change or we're going to change you. >> is that going ...

Now the president says if you're an individual and your insurance is too much, we'll offer cheaper catastrophic insurance as a temporary fix. which by the way, the inshurners say, not so fast, we're not sure we want to jump on board. basically, he's backing into, quietly, so it doesn't look like it, backing into a delay of the health care law, which is what ted cruz said from the very begin, just delay it. >> the beginning of the press conference, i thought president obama gave excellent spin on the situation. he's had a bad year. the pull numbers are down. what they're talking about, i though...

They are. they say no. they are not changing the rules for rick perry. they're just looking at his pull numbers in a very creative way. the deal is he needs an average of 7% of three polls. all right. so three polls. averaged together they have to come up to 7%. they have to all be polls from january. either from south carolina or polls for the whole country. rick perry is at 5% in the insider advantage poll. he's at 5% in the cnn poll out last week. any three average out to 5%. because they're all 5 pk. in south carolina rick perry is mr. 5%. so how about the national polls? in the national p...

Will texas governor rick perry be allowed into that debate? on the surface it appears he does not qualify. to qualify for the debate here's what cnn says you have to do. you need to either place in the top four in iowa or new hampshire. there's no question that rick perry didn't do that. he was fifth in iowa. he was sixth in new hampshire. but cnn says you either need a first, second, third or fourth in iowa or new hampshire to qualify to be in the debate. or you can get in if you have an average of 7% in at least three national or three south carolina polls released this month. rick perry als...

Presidential candidates. will texas governor rick perry be allowed into that debate? on the surface it appears he does not qualify. to qualify for the debate here's what cnn says you have to do. you need to either place in the top four in iowa or new hampshire. there's no question that rick perry didn't do that. he was fifth in iowa. he was sixth in new hampshire. but cnn says you either need a first, second, third or fourth in iowa or new hampshire to qualify to be in the debate. or you can get in if you have an average of 7% in at least three national or three south carolina polls released t...