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Generations. >> protecting our kids from gun violence. an absolutely critical issue in the light of what happened last month. joining us now is julian epstein a democratic strategist and dana milbank a columnist for "the washington post." the president says addressing gun violence will be a priority. but given what you and i have just witnessed in the congress and a new debt ceiling fight to come in about two months, can we really be optimistic about anything being done to address the issue of gun violence in this country? >> martin, i was up on capitol hill today to watch them wind things dow...

>> up first, president obama is imposing new sanctions designed to make it harder for rogue regimes to crack down on their own people. speaking at the holocaust museum he drew on the lessons of history saying it is imperative to never forget and never be silent, he said, when there is evidence of mass killings, human rights abuses and other atrocities. >> with allies and partners we will keep increasing the pressure of the diplomatic effort to further isolate asad and his regime so those who sack with asad know they are making a losing bet and will keep increasing sanctions to cut of...

Republicans here on the hill have been in communication with the white house as these negotiations have unfolded. and of course they were stalled over the weekend when the budget director went on the sunday shows and essentially ratcheted up the rhetoric around the wall. so the fact that that has been kind of taken down a notch, you do not have democrats anymore saying that they want to stand in the way of this deal, would suggest that thefd oy have avera real possibility for a shutsdown. i'm not sure it ever was on the table. but there is of course the unpredictability of president trump and ...

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>> me either. >> we can agree on that. it does punt it. what it does is says we the congress will not take responsibility or accountability for our own decisions. it is a political answer, not a real answer to the problem. now, whether we are driven in that direction by events, i don't know. we also want a big deal. the president did put a grand proposal on the table. >> chris: we will get to that in a second. if it is a choice because the clock is ticking, 16 days, if it is a choice between the mcconnell plan or nothing, not raising the debt ceiling on august 2, are you going to vote for the ...