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>> yeah. did you have -- >> they're pretty mad at the right. >> the $100 million or billion-dollar koch family that funds freedom works, which supports the tea party, they benefit by getting these guys riled up about this guy who's trying to effect health reform as opposed to getting mad at the rich guys themselves. >> but is it rich people telling them what to do or is it white people -- >> i think it's a little bit of puppeteering. yeah. >> which one is it? are they a racist organization or are they a puppet organization? >> well, when seth and i got together and created the tea party -- >> ...

Legitimate. the average american has not had a pay raise adjusted for inflation since 1973 while guys like us have gotten richer and richer. >> '73? >> but the problem is they're misdirecting it. it's always been fascinating to me that groups like this will direct their anger at the left. and, you know, i think it's should be noted that -- >> larry: they don't get mad at the right? >> yeah. >> they're pretty mad at the right. >> the $100 billion family that funds freedom works which supports the tea party, they benefit by getting these guys riled up about this guy who is trying to affect healt...

Legitimate. the average american has not had a pay raise adjusted for inflation since 1973 while guys like us have gotten richer and richer -- >> '73? i was making like $4 an hour. >> but the problem is, they're misdirecting it. it's always been fascinating to me that groups like this will direct their anger at the left. and you know, i think it's -- it should be noted that -- >> larry: don't get mad at the right. >> they're pretty mad at the right. >> the $100 million or billion koch family that funds freedomworks, which supports the tea party. they benefit by getting these guys riled up abou...