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Stricter background checks in purchasing guns, but there is this political divide here if you take a look at the new cnn/orc poll, says 29% of republicans say they favor stricter gun control laws compared to 82% of the democrats. so how key is this political divide here? and what gets done? >> it's very important. i mean, if you look at this sort of macro politics of it, suzanne, you see that kind of a number. you understand what's going on between republicans and democrats. you see that nine out of ten americans support something. if you're looking at the republican party as a brand, you'd sa...

Than a the shotgun is. but as you may know the ar-15 was used, perhaps because it's so easy to fire, it was used in a couple of mass shootings we saw including the colorado movie massacre and the shooting at the oregon mall. the weapon itself is controversial. your thoughts on that? >> well, i mean, i understand that they want to say, you know, this wouldn't look scary if the military were to find weapons and perhaps falling in the wrong hands, but the fact is, there's so many in circulation that, you know, if somebody wants to get their hands on one, they'll have access to it one way or anoth...

Murdered directly linked to a u.s. federal government government. i think the idea we rust them with good judgment is a big, serious mistake. they have not earned it. >> go back to the basic question. do you support background checks on gun sales? to prevent mentally ill people, criminals, abusers from purchasing guns? that is a question they won't answer this, is about an extremist agenda that wants to prevent any sensible measure no matter how it will save human lives that. is fortunately the conversation that the american public wants to have. >> i see that you're opposed to the process. yo...

Government program and the idea that we trust them with good judgment is a big serious mistake. they have not earned it >> just go back to the basic question that he didn't answer before. do you support background checkos gun sales to help the seriously mentally ill dangerously mentally ill person from purchasing guns. this is not about any one regulation. it is an extremist agenda that prevents any sensible measure that no matter how demon it will save human lives and that's the conversation that the american public will have. >> you are opposed to due process. we ought to have a trial and ev...

Control. but at the time, he was very much in support of the legislation that went through and wrote president johnson a letter to that effect. >> it's kind of interesting when you think about 1968, because you could at that point mail order a gun, minors could buy the guns. there are some critics of the bill, legal scholars, as well as gun rights advocates, that say that it was actually motivated by racist fears, that this bill was meant to keep african-americans from purchasing guns. what's your take on that? >> well, i don't think there's any proof to that end. if you look at the way the bi...