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More towards universal health care, think about the last century of american politics. that system of universal care really has worked with, say, jim crowe america. i think public officials say no. what i wrote about there was how the voices for universal health care led to medicare and medicaid, led to obamacare eventually. they all came out of the civil rights movement, they came out of black activism and progressive activism. so you look at the response to obamacare, you look at sort of the over the last 50 years the response against medicaid, those have all had some sort of racial componen...

What washington is like probably know that there is going to be you know more of a push and pull. but i think for him he is find going more difficult. >> david, what are your thoughts? it seems the secretary of state is kind of in a difficult place. >> he is, boris. and everything elise said i agree with. but i think the problem more complex. the first there is a great temptation to say let's just come in and apply business experience to an old structure like the state department. and certainly the state department is in need of some reform. but the fact of the matter is that the world charges...

Public. if you're a a fan of president trump and don't care if there's ratings on camera, you care when there's a democrat in office, and vice versa. if it's a democrat in the future, but whether republican or democrat in the white house, there's a push and pull. clinton, obama, bush, all past presidents in the age of technology news have tried to control the message. not to this degree. this is a much more dramatic escalation of this attempt to roll back access. >> what's the deal with the inconsistency, though, not saying we're only doing it this way, on and off camera sometimes, use the aud...

This. let's talk about the push and pull. >> well, i do think that this is what president trump promised that he was going to do when he campaigned, and he does have an obligation to see through the promises that he made. but i do think that this sort of emphasizes the danger of governing entirely by executive order. this was something republicans object to with president obama, that he did w too much by executive order. >> 13 in his first week, to the 14 issues issued by president trump in his first week. >> yeah. there was a lot of action that was done in order to sidestep a system of checks...

Be effective? >> well i think it's the same truth as how can a leader galvanize their party and how can they get alignment. and from my understanding, paul ryan was actually organizing republicans prior to the election with a very concrete agenda, specifically around tax reform. and what has been kind of an upset or surprised in the last six days, and it will be interesting to see in the coming year, is how and if they are able to align with trump, because he is from the outset without really working with the house and senate, taken the lead on things like the immigration and building the wall...