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Summers are times when people decide to try to head up north? >> well certainly. part of what we've also seen we should note is that the push factor is things like gang violence murder rates. violence in the central american countries, have not abated. those issues are still very much in play here. >> that's right. >> the u.s. government will tell you when they had their p.r. campaign last year to try to educate migrants in central america about the dangers of the journey, that's one of the factors why we've seen less travel to the u.s. border. of course when we look at the dangerous journey f...

The push factor typically it's a personal face-to-face relationship even more so than social media. once the individual latches on to those ideas, then you have different swirling motivations and it may be the case where they would like to get to a place like syria but can't get there. >> bill, same question to you. why not overseas? >> i don't think they go overseas because they were much more advantageous to commit the acts here. these people are already here they've downloaded the cookbook they have purchased materials to make a bomb. it's advantageous for them to be right on site and losin...

Unaccompanied children as young as eight years old, five years old. who have been on a 1,000 mile journey to come to this country. and you can see in their eyes vulnerability and fear that i recognize as a father. and so, there's a humanitarian aspect to this situation that we simply have to grapple with and come to turns with, our response to this needs to reflect our laws and our values. >> why are they coming? you've been there directly, you're talking to the kids directly, you're talking with local officials who deal with this influx. there's always been some accompanied minors coming acro...

To this needs to reflect our laws and our values. >> why are they coming? you've been there directly, you're talking to the kids directly, you're talking with local officials who deal with this influx. there's always been some accompanied minors coming across, there is this just incredible influx. i mean, more than 50,000 kids in a handful of months. why is it happening? >> good question. first and foremost, there's the push factor of the conditions in their countries. three quarters of this influx are coming from guatemala, honduras and el salvador, the conditions in those countries are very,...

Vulnerability and fear that i recognize as a father. and so, there's a humanitarian aspect to this situation that we simply have to grapple with and come to turns with, our response to this needs to reflect our laws and our values. >> why are they coming? you've been there directly, you're talking to the kids directly, you're talking with local officials who deal with this influx. there's always been some accompanied minors coming across, there is this just incredible influx. i mean, more than 50,000 kids in a handful of months. why is it happening? >> good question. first and foremost, there'...