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>> it's going to land like tom cruise in mission impossible. fire rockets and rappel down with cables. bill: i hope we get a picture of that. why is this mission necessary? because man, it's expensive. >> it is. look, there are a bunch of ways to frame it. you think about all the things that we spend on education, this is an unbelievable educational outreach. you think of all the different ways we try to push technology, this is the same kind of technology that is creating collision avoidance or do google maps automatically. you give engineers the hardest possible problem and you get better en...

Get man into space, and to me, that is is a shame. >> it has though been responsible for so many breakthroughs that we use everyday here on the ground and not up in space. do you think that will all go away? >> well, i sure hope not. i think that if we want to be the leader of the world and keep pushing technology and creating new jobs and do all of the things that we need to do as a great nation, i think that we need our space program. we do push technology. we bring the brain power of the world together to solve some very difficult problem, and it is still difficult. you saw it today trying ...