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Is intercepting any call out of the president of ukraine's office. so russia has that call with trump. they know what happened. they understand the pressure that ukraine is being put under. they don't want ukraine to get the military aid to defend against russia. and all of this is going to come out. and here's what i predict we're going to have happen tomorrow with maguire. because of this classified underside, because this is going to involve intercepts, because i believe -- and, look, i want to be very careful here. i don't have solid information on this, but i've asked myself when would i ...

Applies to everybody in terms of the white house. >> richard, you worked in the state department although not yet secretary of state, you haven't had to sign that. are you surprised by this? because jen tsaki points out that col inpowell and condoleeza rice did not sign documents. >> what i understand you have a checklist form. you gave back your building pass. documents or whatever. but the idea of a secretary of state would be given courtesy of not signing it doesn't sound surprising. i expect white house staffs sign such a form i doubt the vice president and president will be asked to sign....

Scrutiny. you have to think about any member of your family, their personal lives. it all becomes fair game. it's fascinating, because you see the caliber of candidates now that are in office. i talk to a lot of people in their 30s or 40s who are very successful and you say, why don't you run? they go, not a chance. do you think we're going to see a lack of candidates moving forward because the scrutiny is so difficult not just on the person running but the wife, the kids, the husband, the kids, even if you had a dog on your roof 25 years ago? >> i think especially with women. women don't want...

Catholicism. the la leche league, the la leche league, which we think of a crunchy, hippie earth mom movement. began as a right wing catholic women's organization. >> i did not know that. >> similarly natural childbirth, when we watch "mad men" and we see betty draper getting put under. twilight sleep was a feminist progressive reform against women who thought women had to suffer through childbirth. it's a reaction that started out as feminist reforms now are being, there's been a convergence. you say the -- >> it's a convergence towards essentialism. >> as the two conceptual underpinnings. >>...

Heavily fortified room to retreat from some of the radiation. but that's ultimately, you know, over sustained amounts of time, they are sacrificing their health, their lives. >> absolutely. there's a cumulative level of exposure, but there's something we haven't talked and, it's not just the physical, the hard work, the lack of sleep, the harrold labor they're doing. there's a mental stress here. you're facing -- you know that you're facing the prospect of death. you're worried about your family, and you're worried about what's happening to you. and on the battlefield, we've learned, and sanja...