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Book, knowing who met with whom. the little things that help a prosecutor put a case together. i thought his professions of loyalty to roger stone were fascinating because clearly he sees roger stone as connection with people pushing out the anti hillary -- for the russians it's so clear that you may think roger stone may be more at the center of this than seen before. he knows the little things that prosecutors turn into big things. >> he also knows what donald trump was doing in 2012, 2013, 2014, as he was building this political operation, but more importantly, as he was going to russia, as...

Katie. i was preparing it, should i spend 50 hours going over all my e-mails with roger and with steve bannon and then they wanted e-mails that i had with hope hicks, with lewandowski, are you giving me a break? it's ridiculous. when i get a subpoena like this, roger is right. i mean, mr. trump is ght. it's a witch hunt. >> i've spent money on an attorney. i cooperated with them and then i got something like this and they wanted me to go to the grand jury next friday and i believe they're trying to start a case against roger. why do you think they want to make you go in the grand jury room. >>...

Bills. >> it would be funny if they wanted to arrest me because i don't want to spend 80 hours going over e-mails i had with steve bannon and roger stone. >> john heilemann, i want to explain to people that are -- well, let me bring in joyce here. joyce, just because -- i brought this up yesterday and i just -- i knew people would say oh, it's a witch-hunt that bob mueller is asking for this information, all of these e-mails. this is the first thing any lawyer does in a civil case, in a criminal case. it's called discovery and you mediately a clean swp. you want all the e-mails, you want all t...

Last week that got swept up in everything else that happened was admiral mike rogers testimony before the arms services committee last week. the head of the u.s. cyber command saying we're not doing enough, russia continues to attack our syste unabated, i haven't be given the authority om the white house to do the things i believe need to get done. my question is if everyone knows this is a problem, everyone recognizes it continues to happen a couple of years after the presidential campaign and the presidential election. who's standing in the way of doing more and why do you suspect they're do...

The principals, several of which have already been arrested? can you explain how far from being a witch-hunt that's lawyering 101? and if they didn't do that they wouldn't be doing their job. >> this is on the opposite end of the prosecutor universe from being a witch-hunt. getting e-mails, text messages and other commune station the way every competent prosecutor or, as you point out, every lawyer in any kind of litigation begins to build their case. it's the paper record, it's contemporaneous when conduct occurs so prosecutors like mueller will generally issue these subpoenas. there's nothin...