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Meant to deter russia and china. i mean, is this the kremlin at all surprised to see this kind of unity against russia? >> well, i think what they're kind of worried about is, if you have the ability by the allies to convince china. the majority came out with its so-called peace proposal. if you can convince china to put pressure of russia, that would be really formidable. i think that is the thing that russia would worry about. could china now instead of just saying, well, we want peace and all of that, if they could actually be under pressure from the chinese, that would be significant and i...

The story unfold in realtime, didn't seem as connected as they do now. if you take the of the campaign election interference in 2016, russia stepped out of the election, the second major event being the first impeachment of donald trump, which was all about ukraine, recall that the person who has just been named time magazine time man of the year, zelenskyy, was at the time, the other end of the call that donald trump placed that was basically a shakedown call. the lynskey was this very green political novice. not the churchillian figure he is now. -- the third of course was the -- south. that...

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Ukrainian seaport. it's home to one of the largest russian-speaking communities outside of europe. >> right now everybody is ukrainian right now. everybody is ukrainian. as a show of solidarity. people are posting in their storefronts, on facebook, ukrainian flags. >> on light posts. >> on light posts. >> to show that we are the people of ukraine. we're against the war. and we want the bloodshed to stop as soon as possible. >> reporter: he stays in close contact with fellow russian-americans both online and on air as host of a talk radio show. >> nobody is supporting what kremlin is doing. som...

Is for ukraine to keep control of the air. russia can't win this as long as ukraine has control of the air. a really big deal. >> trace: we have talked about what the ukrainians across cities in kharkiv some of the bombs and civilian targets. going back to morale, dr. grant, i wonder if that plays into it at all. you go after civilians and one commit turns popular opinion in russia against vladimir putin when you going after civilians and attacking children and so forth. and does it also hurt morale among the people who he loves to fight with this war? >> yes. i think it really could appear th...