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Occasional contacts with russians, some of them are fairly highly placed not far from putin, that they are appalled. i think putin has badly stumbled. and i think his mendacity is disgracing him and derivatively much of the country, and i think the russians are becoming aware of it. and we stick to our guns, i think we'll prevail. and we have to put pressure on those who are wavering, and that's particularly italy. the contrast between sweden and italy speaks for itself and is an embarrassment for italy. >> a moment of truth for europe and the west. i want to get to another major story develop...

Tough sanctions on putin because of the economic relationship. the european economies are still fragile, and they worry about a natural gas shock that putin could certainly create. plus, europe just wants to have good relations with russia or nonthreatening relations with russia. so that's a hurdle i'm not sure has been fully crossed yet. >> this is what we talked about at the top here, the father of a 17-year-old girl killed on the plane and is now speaking out. borst turned to facebook to remember his daughter and to share his grief. >> thank you very much, mr. putin, leaders of the separati...

President's statement yesterday and also, what is the time line in terms of working with other world leaders and, you know, to use a statement that's been used on this show very carefully, tragedy is opportunity to take the opportunity to act in the face of the evil and the pain that these families are facing? >> well, i would characterize the president's statements as getting stronger since this happened last week. you've seen him ratchet up the rhetoric against russia, in particular. in terms of what's going to happen next, you know, we're told by officials that there are no imminent u.s. sa...

With the investigation into the downing of malaysia airlines flight 17. the separatists or kremlin surrogates have handed over the jet's black boxes after days of pressure from victims' families and world leaders as well. a train filled with bodies of the crash victims arrived moments ago before it will reach amsterdam ultimately. and malaysia's prime minister says the rebels have given them full access to the crash site. the move comes hours after obama criticized the rebels and russian president vladimir putin. >> these separatists are removing evidence from the crash site, all of which begs...

Question one is asking right now in terms of dealing with putin on an honest basis? what i saw yesterday was the president going there for the first time since this happened. >> i just don't see why we needed this tragic event to know putin is a liar and a thug and that these countries no y ies n sacrifice on the economy to stop his aggression and ukraine and elsewhere in europe. i don't understand that. he's going to lie about it, and he'll lie about it even if there's evidence presented, he'll say these were people that -- >> he is lying about it. he's calling ukraine the aggressor here. >> ...