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That's my irreducible position. we can't be involved in regime change. you have to come to congress if you are going to attack another country. he didn't do that that's not a small matter. i'm not going to back off of that. >> bill: i'm not asking you to back off of it let's say if the president comes bamback from his jaunt. would you support the action against qaddafi. >> no, as a matter of fact, i will be moving forward with an amendment and continuing resolution to cut off funds for the libyan attack. >> i go back to my original question if you don't support the action to get him out of the...

We is taken sides in a civil war on behalf of people we do not know and understand. >> bill: that is true. nobody knows what will happen once qaddafi is removed. but what mr. will fails to appreciate is that qaddafi is a terrorist, a man who has ordered americans killed, 190 of them. a man who allowed terrorist training camps on his soil for decades. a whose human rights record is up there with that of saddam hussein. president reagan bombed india incident in berlin where two american soldiers were killed. two years later the panam plane was blown up. the u.s.a. owe os qaddafi pay back. you do...

The united states. the president has to come to congress, bill. there is no way of getting away from that. >> bill: i'm not arguing that i don't mind him coming to congress or doing whatever you want him to do. that's fine. but i -- >> -- that's the constitution. >> in rwanda we saw three quarters of a million people slaughtered. >> right. >> bill: you would not have intervened under the same philosophy that you are now telling me. you would not have intervened? rwanda was not a threat to the united states. >> i didn't say that. >> bill: but you have to say it if you are going to be consistent...

Absolutely ruin your future with your people in africa and throughout the world. why don't you organize a group of respected americans and ask for a meeting with qaddafi? you you can't order him to step down and get out. who the hell do you think you are? >> bill: well, i believe he is the president of the united states. the country in which you reside minister farrakhan. and then there is ralph nader. >> why don't we say what's on the minds of many legal experts is that the obama administration is committing war crimes and if bush should have been impeached obama should be impeached. >> bill:...

Military attacks on qaddafi's forces had nothing to do with regime change, no, no. regime change was going to be handled by a range of other measures that he said were in place to try to bring him down that the only purpose of these attacks is to prevent qaddafi from bringing about some terrible humanitarian calamity with savage attacks on the rebels around benghazi which he had threatened to do. that was the catalyst for the u.n. action and so on. so that's where he says we are. we have two distinct parts. >> bill: he has to do that for the u.n., i guess. it's all a matter of bs. it's just bs...