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Then if you have a civil war, what nato does is nato introduces the united nations and the u.n. peacekeepers go on the ground to keep the two sides apart. what do you think? >> well, you know, that is certainly one scenario. the other scenario is back to the map just prior to this segment when you talked about everything coming together in sirte, once you get to sirte, the other scenario is right now, you have rebels which are defined as civilians, you have qaddafi's military, which is defined as qaddafi's military, so any time qaddafi's military strikes the rebels, they are de facto striking ...

Reinforcement. the other thing to keep in mind, this is a city where there is a good deal of popular support for colonel qaddafi. it will be interesting to see how that effects possible more allied air strikes. >> shepard: you know, steve, it appears from our reporting that really the rebels weren't prepared to advance certainly not as quickly as they have. >> i think we're hearing some caution, some expressions of concern, especially from u.s. commanders just how quickly this has moved and not tounder estimate the strength of the rebels. yes, they have gone 200 miles in 24 hours. yes they hav...

Standard and fox news political analyst juan williams. it certainly hasn't been smooth. as we sit here at week's end nato has taken command not only of the no fly zone but also of the civilian protection mission. qaddafi forces pushed back from benghazi and then ajdabiya and now brega. brit, messy or not, is president obama's policy working out? >> so far, so good, i say. and i think what the president may be noticing here is for all that he is now saying about how we are not really front and center in this mission and it is really a multinational operation and so forth, this shows the inevita...

Responsibility and costs of upholding peace and security. >> this command and control business is complicated and we haven't done something like this kind of on the fly before. >> chris: the president and defense secretary gates with different views about how smoothly the coalition effort in libya is going. and it is time for our sunday group, brit hume, fox news senior political analyst. nina easton of fortune magazine. bill kristol from the weekly standard and fox news political analyst juan williams. it certainly hasn't been smooth. as we sit here at week's end nato has taken command not on...

Killed. okay? these are stag diverring statistics in rwanda. darfur. all these things add up. we did nothing. suddenly we are the con fab buoy larry of the world. i don't think that's what our world is after this operation, bill, regardless of what you and i believe. we have to ask one question. is america stronger or weaker? more safe or less safe. >> bill: litmus test in less than 48 hours you can do what we did. in less than 48 hours we neutralized those people on the qaddafi forces. >> bill, they are being killed on the ground still because we, with air strikes cannot stop the slaughter fr...