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After gingrich but in so doing he risks ale lea risks alien naturing a substantial portion of the republican party. megyn: it's one thing to say he's an insider, i'm an outsider, there is another thing to raise impediments to him winning a general election. >> in answer to your question, i think i do expect him to step it up. he will do it through paid mead what with the harshest charges through commercials or his 501c4 so he doesn't have his fingerprints on it. he'll keep driving the contrast of an insider and outsider, and the paid media and the money he has to put behind that paid media sho...

I think he will win, he's a start guy, he's got a message. he knows what he's doing, with his lead as wide as it is it will be pretty tough to undermine him and have romney who has never been above 20% go up into the 25, 30% range. megyn: we will here the opposite argument in about ten minutes right here. doug, thanks so much. >> thanks so much, megyn. megyn: we are waiting to hear from herman cain as he makes a campaign spot? south carolina before heading home to see his wife and discuss the future of his campaign. we have a live camera there. we will listen to a little of what he has to say ...

Organization. romney has the money, the people. he obviously doesn't have the enthusiasm that newt gingrich has right today. but newt in a very short period of time has to put an organization in iowa, which he has nothing, new hampshire which he has nothing, south carolina, which he has nothing and even beyond florida. that takes a lot of money and a lot of resources. megyn: tell us what that means to have the organization on the ground. >> organization are people that are there. take iowa, for example, in iowa 40,000 voters voted for mike huckabee. it's january 3rd, it's 7:30 at night. it's n...

But we have had a long number of months to look at those candidates and i think it's probably going to go to somebody who is in the top tier status. but he has a whole move scrutiny to go. guy molinari has come out with terrible things to say about gingrich. ron paul has put up a video ad that look at flip-flops of gingrich's. if gingrich can sustain them i think he's the nominee. if he can't, the support goes to perry. i think the republican primary will choose somebody from the right side of the quadrant given romney's fairly static numbers.

40 years or so. during that same time i was trying to build a business, doing my best to understand how the economy works. we created jobs, we created a good return as well. i need america needs to have a leader who has run things, who has spent time in the private spector, who understands the power of the american experience and knows how it is that we can make our economy stronger. megyn: newt gingrich has refused to really go after his republican rivals, at least in the debates. is there risk to romney in going off gingrich? >> oh, absolutely. he's now trying to position himself as the outs...