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Exactly. we were out in the hallway. we got don jr., donald trump jr. we asked him this issue about what his father said, this idea that he will look into the results of the election. donald trump jr. said, we have heard other surrogates, kellyanne conway and jeff sessions and chairman reince priebus, that if there is voter fraud, then he would potentially challenge the results of the election if there is voter fraud. we pushed him on the idea of this qualification issue. what does that mean for democracy as he was in a scrum of reporters out there? he sort of turned around and said, if there ...

Is this a messaging problem for the white house? >> they got busted, i think deservedly so for leaving out that qualifier. it is important to it a step back. president obama said if you like your insurance you can coop it. that does apply to the majority of the people with health insurance, whether from your employer or people who don't have health insurance at all. where he was wrong and the qualification he left out was regarding that 5 to 6% in the private health insurance market. a lot of the good reporting pointed out, some people worse off, some better off. president obama has really tri...

>> during the campaign you said, you know what? governor romney ought to have a press conference and lay out what his experience was at bain. do you think he ought to do that still? >> i think people looked at it and i can just tell you this is why i don't understand the obama campaign strategy here. bain has an issue that doesn't work because people looked at it in balance and you can pick a couple of companies that lost. you can pick a couple of companies that succeeded and as the governor of massachusetts said last week, it is a good company and a good track record. it's a good citizen of m...

Governor romney ought to have a press conference and lay out what his experience was at bain? take all the relevant questions. do you still think he ought to do that? >> i think he did that. i think people looked at it and i can just tell you this is why i don't understand the obama campaign strategy here. bain as an issue doesn't work because people look at it in balance and you can pick a couple of companies that lost. you can pick a couple of companies that succeeded and as the governor of massachusetts said last week, it is a good company. it has a good track record. it's a good citizen of...

Press conference and lay out what his experience was at bain? do you think he ought to do that? >> i think people looked at it and i can just tell you this is why i don't understand the obama campaign strategy here. bain has an issue that doesn't work because people looked at it in balance and you can pick a couple of companies that lost. you can pick a couple of companies that succeeded and as the governor of massachusetts said last week, it is a good company and a good track record. >> you said this is a character issue for romney, ultimately. his time in business and what he did. >> if you ...