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Which he has knowledge, but as to which the president has not asserted executive privilege. so when he goes in, he's like any other person, but because he was a senior policymaker, in the administration, the president retains the right to assert executive privilege as the specific questions or lines of questioning. he cannot blanketly say i am not going to answer that question because the president may in the future want to assert it. it has to have been i am not answering that question because the president or his white house counsel or his private counsel somehow haveinstructed me that the p...

Technically their boss, if you lie to them, you've already committed an offense. you can get busted for that, separate and apart from any underlying conversation that was going on. so, jeff sessions knows this better than anybody. used to be a u.s. attorney. so it is a very different conversation. it is not one where there is a lot of bargaining, give and take, one where you actually have to do what we so often hear, tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but. >> stand by for one minute, i'll come to you for a second, joining us by phone now, michael zeldin who once worked for robert muel...

The question. brian fallon raising an interesting point here on the timing of all of this, which is that the attorney general was questioned last week in the special counsel's probe and this morning, we're learning that he was pressuring the fbi director christopher wray to fire the department t deputy, pressuring him so much that he threatened to quit if he kept that pressure up. is that appropriate, given he was facing questions himself by presumably fbi agents and the special counsel probe, is it appropriate for him to weigh in on fbi personnel decisions a week later? >> main my view, no. i...

>> well, unless mueller advises him otherwise, and says to him, were you to do that, i would view this as an interference with my investigation. generally speaking, a witness is free to talk to whom ever they want about their testimony, whether in the grand jury, or privately unless he's instructed by mueller otherwise. i would expect that these guys are talking to one another, we saw that earlier when flynn backed out of the joint cooperation, the joint cooperation agreement, that led us to know they were all talking to one another. sessions could be similarly in such an arrangement. so, yes,...

Would want to drill down on? >> right, so as shimon referred to earlier, you know, sessions really is involved in a number of different threads here. one he was part of the trump transition team, part of the foreign policy team, so he was involved in meetings in which contacts and overtures with russian officials were discussed. he himself had undisclioed contacts with russian ambassador sergi kiey kislyak. that's one of the reasons he resigned. there is the question of the obstruction of justice, the firing of jim comey, his involvement there. so jeff sessions really is involved in quite cent...