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The crucial variable here is what parents say to their kids. white kids can grow up and they can grow up whether they're exposed to other black kids and other black families or not, all kids are getting mixed messages. the question is, how do parents counteract the messages. >> you said that the kids in the study were, i want to get the quote right, were mirroring the unfinished business of adults. what did you mean? >> what i meant is kids are basically like sponges. they're like mirrors on what they're exposed to. so what they see and what they're exposed to, they simply represent. and the f...

It's confirming. and i have seen the data for three years in studying this. watching these videotapes is heartbreaking to see this stuff. we thought that sending kids just to diverse schools might be the answer. it's not the only answer. because within diverse schools, children are self-segregating. looking at 90,000 kids, 120 representative schools, showed as school diversity went up, self-segregation also went up. so the odds of having cross-racial friends was going down in diverse schools, not going up. the crucial variable here is what parents say to their kids. white kids can grow up, and...

Counteract the messages. >> you said that the kids in the study were, i want to get the quote right, were mirroring the unfinished business of adults. what did you mean? >> what i meant is kids are basically like sponges. they're like mirrors on what they're exposed to. so what they see and what they're exposed to, they simply represent. and the fact that younger children are 4-year-olds and kindergarten children, are also what we call sort of normally self-centered. you know, they just think about how they feel, and what they experience. and they share it in the sense with the mentor asking t...