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50th anniversary of the freedom writers and he decided not to run for president and one of the theorys is he could not figure out how to talk about his views on race in a way that wouldn't do him damage in his electoral process. you suggesting that the context of race goes far beyond? >> absolutely. we have issues early on with the fon red rate flag and issues with the gravesites and memorials and plaques and against efforts of the naacp to remove them and other issues involving staff and things where they had plenty of reports of how rick perry does have a race problem and that the issue wi...

Initially refusing to condemn a license plate that honored one of the founders of the ku klux klan. so does the gop have a race problem that goes beyond donald donald trump? in the immortal words of sarah palin, you betcha. with me is jesse jackson. he's condemned donald trump for quog language that plays on racial fears. great to have you here tonight. >> yeah, this is a very disparages conversation. we're back downs in gutter again polarizing people on these unfounded fears. what's called the birther movement should be called the illegitimacy movement, that he's a liar, he's not a christian,...

Problem with black people. i think people like him who aren't sophisticated like you. >> but that's his problem. >> this isn't about sophistication. you are chuckling, but you know he has an appeal. >> he has an absolute appeal. >> does he have a race problem? >> he's engaged, he's out there turning it up a little bit. i think that this moment for him needs to -- i agree with karl, let it go. >> let's talk about what your party needs. i have a sense this election isn't going to be decided on race or party loyalty, it's going to be decided on performance. if the economy is rocking and rolling, ...

Aren't sophisticated like you. >> but that's his problem. >> this isn't about sophistication. you know he has an appeal. >> he has an absolute appeal. >> does he have a race problem? >> he's engaged, he's out there turning it up a little bit. i think that this moment for him needs to -- i agree with carl, let it go. >> let's talk about with a your par what your party needs. i have a sense this election isn't going to be decided on rates or party loyalty. it's going to be decided on performance. about it the economy is rocking and rolling, this guy is elected easily. if the number of unemployme...

Because we've had other top democrats say howard dean made incendiary comments about how the tea party has a big race problem and they grew up in an america where everyone looked like them and so on. do you think these are genuine beliefs held, or is that this is part of the strategy that we had news about several months ago of an attempt to diminish the tea party because they are such an incredible force that came out of nowhere to try to get americans to believe look, you associate with them, you associate with racists, therefore, you, by implication, are a raceis, and then people feel uncom...