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Mistake. they have not been notified to the foreign ministry or aviation officials. so they are not considered now to be relevant in this regard. in anyway the vietnamese air force which flew over could find no trace of them. so that gets -- you know, yesterday you said to me on "the situation room," wolf, you said i was appearing optimistic about this because it was the best lead we had. and it was yesterday afternoon. but now that lead has gone. so that's gone. now you've got this "the wall street journal" article and this direct contradictions on that one. so that lead becomes suspect. you'...

Data, they obviously now feel that there is something in this. there's also reports of ships going as far into the indian ocean, which frankly if it is that far, then it's a completely different search operation. i think that you've -- you're back to basically where we were yesterday morning. two distinct search grounds. the first is off the coast of malaysia and in the gulf of thailand and the south china sea. the second off the west coast of malaysia in the strait of malacca. and those remain the focus of attention for their individual reasons, wolf. the first because it was where the last t...

For some radar blips, if you will, there's nothing that can be sent from a boeing 777 that would indicate mayday, mayday or anything else? >> not really. >> that sounds like -- that sounds crazy to me. >> well, i mean, the systems are coming online. but we're not quite there yet. if off 80sb for example that sends a tremendous wealth of information, but right now you have to have a ground station to receive it. and so that didn't -- that wasn't true in this case. >> because the so-called black box, the flight data recorder, voice recorder, they have -- they can ping for, what, 30 days? even if...

Extra time in there. but still in the scope of that investigation in that ocean, that's not a lot of time. >> talk briefly about the type of information that's on the black box that's so vital. >> well, the main thing, first, the cockpit voice recorder picks up two recorders. it picks up the private conversations in the cockpit. something came down in the cockpit, pilot does the co-pilot in, vice versa, that would be on the recorder, unless they disabled it ahead of time. the flight recorder, we have these vague radar blips. we don't know if this plane -- where it went and did it go to extreme...