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Harsh on the prime minister for what was a bit of a premature announcement. i think all things considered, if you remember all things considered the simplest solution is probably right. we know the airplane has not shown up place else. we know the definitive data they are working with or call definitive was parsed in a way never used before. yes, there is a little bit of uncertainty. we have debris in the water. all things point to the airplane having been in a position from which it could not recover, in other words, no way to reach land. >> look, if you listened to what was said and you don'...

No evidence of any wreckage being found. there was no radar tracks from places like air thailand. i know jeff wise will disagree with me on a variety of these aspects. but once you've gone over malaysia and indonesia, you're talking about small islands. this is a boeing 777. yes, there are some landing spots that it could happen, but most of them have been checked. >> a lot of people have been asking about submarines. paul says, is it true that the u.s. has deployed submarines in the search for mh-370 in the indian ocean? are submarines potentially useful here? >> they do have acoustic listeni...

Coalesce. >> that's why they have that confidence. >> other facts. >> the fact was that the range of the plane together with that satellite picture kind of put it in the air. >> but you're keeping the northern arc open. authorities not that they have given up completely but they have. >> there's no radar tracks. nobody -- to take your point the six hours flying north, if it had been on that, you might have hoped that somebody, even if you hadn't acknowledged it would have spotted a primary radar. >> so many countries with radar. >> if this plane went north it went over myanmar or bangladesh. t...

Their radar tracks would be very valuable in terms of determining where that plane went after it book that westward turn. >> richard? >> what we have here, of course, is no definitive, primary radar track. so all the countries involved, whether it's thailand or indonesia or malaysia itself, australia, everybody is going back to the data and looking at it again and again. sometimes they may have been slow to see it the first time. but very often they will be going back again and again to see if they have missed something and then that data -- mary, i don't know whether you can weigh in on this ...

Option number two where they're searching in significant way with u.s. and australian assets. do you think that is where the plane went? >> if i knew would i tell somebody. it is hard to tell where he went after that. once he went below 5,000 feet and tried to stay clear of radar -- bill: do we know he went the 5,000 feet. >> that's what we think. there is no transponder on it at this time. any accurate altitude information is lost at that point. they're using radar tracks on tape, trying to triangulate them as best they can and determine poll with altitude. you can't take that gospel. bill: t...