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Fair and unbalanced. he was probably the best press secretary of the podium that the country had ever seen. he was already a speech writer for president bush. before he took the job he called me and he said, nowy, look i got this opportunity and he was doing the radio. he was my -- on the radio factor he was my sub. and he was doing a column and he was doing a bunch of things. i said take the job. it will be fun and interesting and you will learn a lot. it won't show anything other than you being a republican. now the editor of "time" magazine was supposed to be nonpartisan, right? nonpartisan...

Of them the better. republicans have a constituency, these people are breaking the law. we shouldn't reward them with citizenship and shouldn't do anything to r make sure we have closed the border in effect to illegal aliens before we allow these people to stay in the country. that is the divide. >> bill: i said that on the radio factor in 2006 exactly what you said. there was a strain of the democratic party who want an open border situation to attract illegal aliens in here, mainstream them and give them citizenship so they would vote democratic. i was attacked. you are saying the same thing...

Of them the better. republicans have a constituency, these people are breaking the law. we shouldn't reward them with citizenship and shouldn't do anything to reward that and make sure we have closed the border in effect to illegal aliens before we allow these people to stay in the country. that is the divide. >> bill: i said that on the radio factor in 2006 exactly what you said. there was a strain of the democratic party who want an open border situation to attract illegal aliens in here, mainstream them and give them citizenship so they would vote democratic. i was attacked. you are saying ...

Of them the better. republicans have a constituency, these people are breaking the law. we shouldn't reward them with citizenship and shouldn't do anything to reward that and make sure we have closed the border in effect to illegal aliens before we allow these people to stay in the country. that is the divide. >> bill: i said that on the radio factor in 2006 exactly what you said. there was a strain of the democratic party who want an open border situation to attract illegal aliens in here, mainstream them and give them citizenship so they would vote democratic. i was attacked. you are saying ...

News star laura ingraham. did you hear any gloating today, laura. >> well, bill, before we get into the gloating, can i say that i just drove past the george washington university convention area where your debate is going to be. you thought those today show summer concert series lines were big, i mean, you have got people with tents there. we have got little kerosene stoves. >> bill: is that right? >> laura: hot dogs, hamburgers, like a hamburgable festival. >> they are waiting in stewart. >> it's a wild story here in d.c. nobody is talking about the debate. they are talking about the debate ...