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Try to introduce them to people in the department of education so they could have a more resources. we had two historically black colleges in pennsylvania which i've given commencement addresses -- >> bill: you don't have to convince me. >> i'm not saying it's a bigot, but i'm just saying that i'm actually proud of my record and working in these communities and so i think sometimes you want to give someone the benefit of the doubt if it's a little bit -- >> bill: absolutely. i think that's a fair thing to do. we hope we'll be talking to you down the road. we appreciate you coming on this eveni...

Have the experience of working. in iowa, the state where he's making this comment, 90 some odd% of the people on welfare are white, not black. so that kind of thing tends to get him in trouble and he's gotten in trouble in the past. but look, let's give the man his due for at least a few moments. he came from nowhere, did all the tough work for months and months and months, got no credit for it. but he laid the seeds for the moment that came in the last couple of weeks when, as gingrich collapsed and people were looking around, he was the alternative and he won second place last night in a spe...

Take? you got 10% now. you got momentum. but you got to take from somebody. who you going to take from? >> there are a lot of undecided voters up here and a lot of the folks that are supporting governor romney are supporting him because they think he's going to win and you're going to be with the winner. i think a lot of folks are looking not just for the winner here in new hampshire, but who is going to be the winner long-term? i think you're going to see our numbers start to pop up in some of these other early primary states. our numbers already more than doubled in the cnn flash poll and th...

Day, you can vote and if they don't know about it, tough. >> isn't it incumbent upon them to find out? >> bill: yes, it is. >> okay. an 1-year-old for the first time trying to vote -- >> bill: holder is now politicizing the justice department. would you both agree to that. >> we concur. >> bill: he wasn't upset about the black panthers having the clubs out in front. >> intimidation, right. >> bill: wouldn't prosecute them, but if you don't have an i.d., he wants to sue you. >> exactly. >> bill: now, in charlotte, north carolina, whil, two occupy protesters burnt an american flag. they were cha...

Now he goes in with a lot of momentum. so you got to say he's the front runner. however, there is a real danger for mitt romney this coming weekend in the two debates. the first on saturday night, nobody will watch 'cause it's up against an nfl playoff game. so that's not going to have a lot of impact. >> it will create a narrative that will get amplified on the sunday morning talk programs. that's -- >> bill: i'm talking about the folks. the folks are going to eyeball these people once again, but they're not going to do it live time. they're going to do it through programs like this one. they...