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Think, this is the chef of putin who is behind the russian troll farm. what do you know about him? any thoughts? >> well they come in different shapes and sizes in russia. you know, you can be a railroad guy, you can be an oil guy, you can be a restaurant guy. really all you have to do is this gives poout an great deal of deniability. he can say look, this is not a russian intelligence officer, this is not a russian government official. this is a patriotic russian who was concerned about whatever it is. and he understands that there are people in the west who will be confused by that and perha...

To persuade them to incorporate corporations. in a certain sense, obama today facing squeezing of the middle class, giant mergers, antitrust problems, the inequality of rich and poor, has to repersuade america, government, all of u have a role to work on these together. if we don't do that, the programs he argues for aren't going to have real legitimacy. >> do you think the republican party is as bad now, being owned by wall street, as the republican party teddy roosevelt inherited? >> the incredible think, you think about, here we are 100 years ago and roosevelt had to fight a party. you had ...

Mammoth mergers, the trust you're developing. that was the threshold argument to persuade them to corporainco corporations. in a certain sense, obama today facing squeezing of the middle class, giant mergers, antitrust problems, the inequality of rich and poor, has to repersuade america, government, all of us have a role to work on these together. if we don't do that, the programs he argues for aren't going to have real legitimacy. >> do you think the republican party is as bad now, being owned by wall street, as the republican party teddy roosevelt inherited? >> the incredible think, you thin...

Against? >> well, the incredible thing is you think about here we are 100 years ago and teddy roosevelt has to fight a party where at that time you had guys who were actually representing the sugar trust, representing the copper trust. they would be called the senator from maine is the copper trust guy. the senator from virginia is the railroad guy so it was much more blatant than it was then but argument that government has a role in order to deal with these inequalities had to be fought then and still has to be fought right now, and i think what was so interesting about the speech is that te...