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Justice reform, anna, such particularly donald trump -- ran on taking him out of office if he had one. so he's an incredibly difficult position because if he chooses not, if there is no indictment here, donald trump can, say, look my supporters got, off their they pushed it back and they're gonna be questions about whether or not he was up to the task. on the other, hand if there is an indictment, donald trump's gonna come out and, say look at this democratic salute, going after us. he won't see me, he'll say of. it's, so it's a tough position for him to be an. but i need to think that he has ...

Those that ran on restricts it in michigan and pennsylvania and wisconsin, not to mention colorado or washington. but in the states that have actually rolled back abortion rights and have been part of the broader rollback of rights that we have seen over the last couple years, there was little pushback against the republicans. the governors got reelected in states like florida and ohio and georgia and texas that have restricted abortion. so the question for delaware sab fits, is he getting a false signal. this did do fine at the ballot box in the red states. but those aren't enough to win the ...

I've been mayor, there have been attempts to try to move us back to state control, which does not make us safer, because if you look across the state in kansas city, they have had rise in crime or rise in homicides in the past three years. they've had their most three violent years on record. and this is not a knock on my brother, mayor quinton lucas, these are just the facts. >> so, this is one thing that i want people to also understand and context. you were elected in the wake of the sort of uprising in missouri, the killing of mike brown. and one of the things you ran on was smart policing...

Implemented. >> sergio, i wonder, you said a resounding no -- when i asked you, are they being loud enough, -- some form of fear about being sort of painted as inhumane. why? because, in some way, the administration is using stricter policies in the sense, that they are closing the border and going out to cuba, venezuelans, patients and nicaraguans. yes, they are creating more legal pathways. but in a way, that could alienate the more progressive base of the party. is that part of the no? >> the party needs to lean into what the president ran on in 2020, which was to roll back these hideous an...

Inhumane. why? because, in some way, the administration is using stricter policies in the sense, that they are closing the border and going out to cuba, venezuelans, patients and nicaraguans. yes, they are creating more legal pathways. but in a way, that could alienate the more progressive base of the party. is that part of the no? >> the party needs to lean into what the president ran on in 2020, which was to roll back these hideous and horrible trump policies, things like separating kids from their families, blocking asylum seekers and keeping them in very unsafe and horrible conditions in m...