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Literally nothing except higher inflation, economic damage to the state of texas. >> abbott himself said quote, financial pain is necessary. what happened to the wing of the republican party that was supposed to be pro business? >> that's a fascinating question because greg abbott, you know, he used to be, as you know, used to be conservative. i disagree with that on some issues, but it was basically a pro business, economic development conservative. and that changed, whatever it's been the last five, six years, whether it's trump, whether it's his realization of the gop party and what they wa...

Can't win on the issues. and they'll continue to do that, because they understand that they are talking about policy issues. they're talking about issues that americans care about. if they ask questions about these issues, when you put democrats on a side by side, you always have democrats who stand on the side of the american people. and what is interesting about this is, actually, it's not up to the rnc at the dnc who participates in debates, and whether there are debates. they're not even involved in debates. i was at the presidential candidates, would be interesting to see, whoever the rep...

Later. there is no shortage of republican shenanigans to lash out tonight. the next one involves the gop's dismantling a democratic norm and an american tradition. running scared from the debate stage. plus, two big defeats for russia and its war against ukraine. ukraine's destroyed a warship, and now, reports of a russian general killed in battle. where does this go next? that and more, come. but first, richard louis with a look at the other big stories we're tracking this hour at msnbc. >> very good saturday to you, julian. first in south carolina, police confirmed a short time ago, ten peop...

Democrats on a side by side, you always have democrats who stand on the side of the american people. and what is interesting about this is, actually, it's not up to the rnc at the dnc who participates in debates, and whether there are debates. they're not even involved in debates. i was at the presidential candidates, would be interesting to see, whoever the republican nominee is, whether they move forward with that. because right now, this is just a show from the rnc. i'll be interesting to see what they actually do. >> speaking of a potential nominee in 2024 for the republican party, donald ...

And now, reports of a russian general killed in battle. where does this go next? that and more, come. but first, richard louis with a look at the other big stories we're tracking this hour at msnbc. >> very good saturday to you, julia. first in south carolina, police confirmed a short time ago, ten people have been shot, two others injured at a mall in the capital city of columbia. we're told, three suspects who had weapons had been detained there. police are also saying they do not believe the shooting was a quote, random act. another night of protests in the city of grand rapids, michigan. t...