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It seems to me that issue specifically but more broadly post the hobbs decision was likely to get a lot more attention tonight and just didn't. >> it's really shocking. obviously you think it's a mistake that senator warnock has not addressed this issue more forcefully or even at all. how would you advise that he do it. obviously he's worried about the sensitivities here. >> well, i think you just have to take it heads up. and, you know, as many people have observed, there's the issue of the abortion itself, which to your point is all about hypocrisy. this is a guy who says that at one point i...

Mr. walker. excuse me, sir. >> yes. >> you're very well aware of the rules. aren't you? >> well, he -- he brought up the truth. let's talk about the truth. >> so, it's an odd thing. he's not a member of law enforcement. i don't know where that honorary badge came from. it almost doesn't matter. how did that play at the debate? >> pretty contentious. i think there's two issues there. there's one which to what extent has walker represented that he is somehow officially or unofficially part of law enforcement, which apparently he has done before. and then of course the fact that he violated the r...

Family that says he's been a good family man. i would have pointed that out if i were warnock. >> at times it seems it was a bit chaotic on the debate stage. at one point, senator warnock did bring up the false insinuation he had been in law enforcement, had trained with the fbi. let's take a listen. >> one thing i have not done, i've never pretended to be a police officer, and i've never -- i've never threatened a shootout with the police. and, you know what's so funny? i am -- have worked with many police officers and at the same time -- >> mr. walker, mr. walker -- >> no, no, no, he has a p...