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Opinionated opinions on what we were talking about in a very loud voice and very closeup in our faces. and then he would back off suddenly and be quiet again until a moment when he found another -- where he could wedge himself into it very abruptly and very rudely. he wasn't friendly, he wasn't someone who was forthcoming in terms of how are you, how are you doing, but much more, much more controlling. >> what went through your mind when you learned that he had actually been convicted of raping a child before he was a contestant and since then has been convicted for murdering five people? >> w...

>> the best time is at night, nighttime. >> reporter: flash forward. this is rodney now, convicted of murdering four women and a 12-year-old girl in separate incidents around los angeles around the time of that show. when he acted like just another guy. >> we're going to have a great time together, cheryl. >> cheryl was a tremendous actor. >> reporter: pat brown watches that show and sees nothing unusual because, she says, that's what he wanted. >> serial killers are predators and yes, they act like an animal that is trying to get his prey and the rest of the time it's trying to blend in so we...

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When you learned he'd been convicted of raping a child before he was a contestant and since then convicted for murdering five people? >> well, as creepy as i thought he was, i had no idea that he was a murderer, rapist guy. but i knew that he had an aversion to being next to him. what went through my mind was more what i felt. it was very bizarre, appalled sort of. they told me on the telephone when they called me to be interviewed on "inside edition" that he was a serial killer and killed seven women and raped and killed a 12-year-old girl. and it was horrible. it was like a nightmare come tr...

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