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Nonbinary folks at a much higher rate due to gender identity. oftentimes people want to exploit transgender people online by taking pictures of their genitalia to expose them or exploit them as having genitalia that is different than their gender identity. and so i believe that that is a hate crime rooted in hate and intolerance and must be stopped. >> okay, so, sara, help us understand the legal ramifications here. i mean, there is a challenge to trying to criminalize this kind of conduct. >> sure. so right now actually only 35 different states and washington, d.c. have laws against revenge p...

While we can't model with certainty, that shouldn't bother people too much the fact that we have a risk and challenge, we shouldn't let that go. and i think my view is it is a serious risk and we need to take steps to address it. is that a fair accounting of how you view it? >> yes, sir. i think what i said is the fact we cannot predict with precision and certainly all of the models that we discussed that day, none of them agree, doesn't mean that we should do nothing. >> one of the things i've seen in my time here in the senate as we've gone from talking about models in the future to talking ...

Fact that we have a risk and challenge we shouldn't let it go. my view is that it is a serious risk. is that a fair recounting of how we feel. >> yes, sir. i think what i said the fact that we can't predict with with precision and all of the models that we discussed, none of them agree. it doesn't mean we should do nothing. >> and one of the things i have seen in my time in the senate, we talk about model and what is happening on the ground right now. and in my state, forest are burning to a faster rate due to the heat and dryness. and the oysteres are having trouble producing because the ocea...