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Can you clarify this for me? this settlement doesn't actually touch the washington mutual stuff? >> i don't know all the details, but i do think it's important to realize that this is probably not different in kind than a lot of the activity that we have seen in courts a and in settlements today. this is probably different in degree. but let's take a step back. during the crisis, you had some 20% or 30% of housing value in the country decline. which meant that $5 trillion $6 trillion disappears. the rating agent -- everyone has been suing everyone else for five years. and when you have between...

Trillion disappears. the rating agent -- everyone has been suing everyone else for five years. and when you have between thing a gags of bear stearns and washington mutual and jpm, very large mortgage originators, if they were problems broadly, which there definitely were, you ought to expect some pretty big numbers. >> we need to make sure that we also take a step back and look at what this settlement come tans. >> i want you to hold that exact thought and continue right after we take this break. more pills? seriously? seriously. [ groans ] all these stops to take more pills can be a pain. ca...

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