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This person will be easier to be? you don't remember what happened to donald trump? he turned out to be a lot harder to be than you thought. when it comes to grading, i wouldn't grade anyone. i'm not a master at this, i wouldn't even think to be a master. but i look at what people can do differently. i think the media, they can learn a lesson, every news outlet, we thought it was a joke, we played with the joke, and now he turned it on us. i don't know if the genie will ever go back into the bottle, but i think that the media can ask itself questions about why? why do we put people on -- why a...

Is. >> is this one -- some people think all this is strategic. wherever trump faces a bad day coming -- and he knows today was the day that the cia will say "you're full of it" he puts out another rabbit for people to follow. do you believe in the rabbit theory? >> for donald trump, yes, because he always is smoke and mirrors, when something there's i'll do something bigger to take your eyes off of this. but i also believe something, too, he can the executive producer and guess what? it's a ratings push i believe as well. >> you think it helps? >> i think it helps. >> you buy all news is good ...