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Aul ryan house budget is in the middle of the biggest stories out of washington these days. his plan to address the debt crisis and reform medicare has been a lightning rod. he is increasingly also mentioned as a possible presidential candidate. we welcome you no congressman ryan. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> bret: many democrats, congressman, are doing a victory lap about the new york 26 special election there has been a web ad run that looks a lot like you pushing an elderly woman off of a cliff. and democrats have simplified the message, saying the republican pla...

Rationing board, preserves this program, makes no changes for person 55 years of age or older. and saves medicare, by reforming it for our generation, so it's solvent. the president's plan does not save medicare, allows it to go bankrupt. rations the program and raids the program. we get rid of the rationing and stop the raiding and we save the program from bankruptcy. >> bret: let's get into some specifics. senate majority leader harry reid speaking about your man, citing cbo stats now repeated by many of the democrats. >> would allow seniors to pay more for benefit, for the healthcare, charg...

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Prevents it from going forward. we want to give states like, indiana, states like wisconsin the tools they need to make the benefits work tor for their populations and don't want to push more people into a failing program and by not pushing people into the failing program we do save these kinds of dollars. >> chris: i want to pick up on this because i must say i didn't understand this. are you saying as part of your budget you assume the repeal of obama care? >> yes. >> chris: well, that is not going to happen. >> well, we believe it should. that is the point. but this is what budgeting is all...