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Freedom, it does all of those things and is a great step toward a better place. it serves the american people who are trapped in these obamacare system and an underperforming medicare system. >> martha: seems like there is a lot of competition between the house and the senate. already saying, forget it. you guys do it you want. if you want to bring it over, we're going to basically start from scratch. you would like to see the repeal passed in the house and then begin the replaced part in the senate? is that right? >> i think if they totally repeal it and replace it with what they have in the ...

Go after, how we could good counterterrorism, this can be done. but at the same time, you have to change the culture. putting things together like in birmingham -- by the way, i work with good muslims in birmingham, a group called the association of british muslims, formed in the late 19th century, works to try to counter this. we have folks we have to work with in the community to take the violence out of the message. >> martha: will leave it there, our thoughts and prayers with kurt cochran's family tonight, the american who was killed in that attack in that beautiful spot on westminster bri...

I think what you're asking is that democrats would lay down and say, you know what, we understand what republicans did over the course of the last year and denying merrick garland the opportunity to meet was wrong, but we are not going to say that two wrongs make a right. but in this current situation where you have donald trump in the white house, where it is all about wiretaps, collusion, all that, that that person should then immediately step in and be given the opportunity to nominate a supreme court justice, i think that is why you had even moderate democrats like even bob casey of pennsy...

I were to bring or if the president were to bring, which might work better, rand paul into the room and paul ryan into the room and say, we are going to have a bill at the end of this conversation, what would it look like, and what would your side be willing to concede? >> yeah, i think the conservatives would say, at this point, if you simply make sure you put some provisions in there that will really reduce the cost of insurance, that's the core of the promise they have made in four elections to get rid of obamacare. and paul ryan keeps saying, i don't want to do that. he kind of says the se...

Intel agencies would be allowing this information and free flow. actually, what do you think? democrats in the past, including al franken, have complained about this 702 rule, that it can easily be misused and abused. >> there are two issues, we have late-breaking news this afternoon and early this evening that chairman nunes conceded that it may not even be that there were any trump transition members on these interceptions, that is may have even been as little as foreigners discussing the trump transition. >> martha: just to clarify, he's not sure -- what it seems to say, could have been pho...