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One of the things we have learned since then, though, is forgotten back seat baby syndrome is an unintended consequence of us moving our children to the back seats. and in particular, the children who are in a rear-facing seat in the back seat, they have diminished visibility. so you can't see them as the driver. and then if they have fallen asleep as in the case of our child, as well as many other children who have died this way, you've also lost auditory reminders that the child is in the car. >> it's literally sort of out of sight, out of mind. i hate to be harsh with that. >> yes. >> i wan...

Heart beat for her. but now i have to help others understand and help me try to save some lives. >> it's an unfortunate accident that happens far too often. thank you again. it's ray-ray's pledge. >> it's terrible. >> thank you, kristie, thank you, brett. >> thank you. when we come back, the hot car story that will surprise you. the 3-year-old that saved a senior citizen. also, some think eric holder shouldn't be talking about race and politics, but no topic is offlimit here is. we're going to debate that. and the man who founded his own country just so his 7-year-old daughter can be a r...

You called her ray-ray. it was a little more than three years ago as a result of a hot car accident. it must be painful to recount, but can you tell what's happened? >> it's excruciatingly painful. reliving the story, the events that happened on that day is very, very challenging. but for my daughter, in memory of my daughter, i've learned as much as i can about what brings on this type of accident. and i'm pursuing with my wife, trying to educate and let everybody know that these things happen to good, loving, caring parents. and i loved my daughter with all my life and all my heart. >> brett...