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Which a majority of the cabinet can vote to remove the president. when bannon mentioned the 25th amendment, trump said what's that. according to a source bannon told people he thinks trump, quote, the president has only a 30% chance of making to full term. joining us tonight michael steele, former chairman of the republican party. both are msnbc analysts. michael, what do you make of that? if a heart surgeon said i'm going to open you up, 30% chance we're going to be talking on the other end. would you take that chance? >> probably not. with bannon you never know. i think what bannon was getti...

Relationship with him. i know as i've said before, everybody's always trying to look for body language and all that, but the truth of the matter is, is that my interactions with him tend to be very straightforward. we discussed syria, and that was primarily the topic of conversation, mr. snowden did not come up. beyond me saying that, re-emphasizing, that where we have common interests, i think it's important for the two of us to work together. and on syria, i said, listen, i don't expect us to agree on this issue of chemical weapons use. although it is possible that after the u.n. inspectors'...