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That is one part of hate. then there is the other part when something like this happens and what it means for others in the community who are muslims, moderates, good citizens. talk to me about the hate aspect of this. >> it is interesting. isis. calls moderate muslims here in the united states coconuts and make fun of them during the pope's latest visit. the bottom line is that isis issant apocalyptic entity. they regard -- and this is interesting. i interviewed extremists all over the world and all have one thing in common. even if you are a co-religionist you are an enemy if you are a part ...

Made? >> we know that now days, say he is reading something from isis. he is an angry person inside. he has some feeling of injustice from his own childhood perhaps, you know, in this case it has dad was as awful as what the report that i was reading. and he feels angry. he is resonating to what they are saying. he hits like. he endorses it. he puts it on his social media profile. they contact him. that is what we call swarming. the isis people swarm in on you immediately if you endorse their materials and ask if you like it. are you into our movement. would you like to go deeper. then they wi...

>> mass shootings like the one that took place on wednesday in san bernardino are becoming common place in the u.s. yesterday was the sixth mass shooting in a week. the u.s. has seen more mass shooting than days this year. sobering statistics leaving a lot of people wondering if this is the new normal. joining me current director of the center for the study of hate and extremism here in san bernardino. you just testified about this before congress in washington. what do you think? >> this is chilling. what i said it that it is a h h harbinger of things to come. the availability of weapons and ...

Extremism from some type of connection. number one, they can be political or religious or both. number two, psycthis looks like is tilting more to idological. maybe one spouse manipulated the other. often time propaganda and someone that is involved in a personal relationship with the offender that gets someone violently radicalized. >> let me talk to you about the two parts of hate. you know, when you look at isis they basically hate anyone who is not them. they are looking to wipe out anyone that doesn't have these very bizarre and crazy views of what islam should be, right?

They actually lived in this house or if it was just a bomb factory that they were using. pete williams talks about the inspiration that one may gain over the internet. we know for example this year there have been 56 individuals in the united states, the majority in new york and minnesota who have been arrested because of some type of isis connections. you are becoming somewhat of a hotbed in that particular area and it is not a quantum leap for someone in his particular case who we are told is a strong practicer of his faith to become radicalized. you know that suggests further by efforts tha...